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Like the new site guys, excellent job...
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Good job, though.
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Clint,
Great job here. It seems much more organized and easier to view.
I have to harass you about having the two "do-gooders" on the home
page. You need a nazgul opposite the king to show balance. *grin*
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Clint
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.
This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Player Points
CLINT OLDRIDGE
101
CLINT OLDRIDGE
92
CLINT OLDRIDGE
104
CLINT OLDRIDGE
95
CLINT OLDRIDGE
103
CLINT OLDRIDGE
99
CLINT OLDRIDGE
84
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678
ANDREW JONES
103
ANDREW JONES
101
ANDREW JONES
98
ANDREW JONES
82
ANDREW JONES
66
ANDREW JONES
60
ANDREW JONES
42
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3
RICARD PITARQUE
35
RICARD PITARQUE
85
RICARD PITARQUE
103
RICARD PITARQUE
102
RICARD PITARQUE
104
RICARD PITARQUE
75
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504
LAURENCE TILLEY
55
4
LAURENCE TILLEY
84
5
LAURENCE TILLEY
81
LAURENCE TILLEY
47
LAURENCE TILLEY
71
LAURENCE TILLEY
90
LAURENCE TILLEY
65
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493
ERNEST HAKEY
104
ERNEST HAKEY
77
6
ERNEST HAKEY
94
7
ERNEST HAKEY
104
ERNEST HAKEY
103
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482
MIKE SANKEY
99
MIKE SANKEY
90
MIKE SANKEY
97
MIKE SANKEY
49
MIKE SANKEY
56
8
MIKE SANKEY
90
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481
SAM ROADS
98
SAM ROADS
84
SAM ROADS
26
SAM ROADS
81
SAM ROADS
88
SAM ROADS
103
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
10
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
94
11
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
99
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
89
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
93
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
104
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
87
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
91
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
104
12
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
53
13
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
57
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
86
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478
CHRIS GUISE
67
CHRIS GUISE
103
CHRIS GUISE
20
CHRIS GUISE
98
CHRIS GUISE
92
14
CHRIS GUISE
88
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468
RANDALL BRADY
102
RANDALL BRADY
98
RANDALL BRADY
49
RANDALL BRADY
75
RANDALL BRADY
91
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415
MIKE BARBER
91
16
MIKE BARBER
77
17
MIKE BARBER
38
MIKE BARBER
75
MIKE BARBER
91
MIKE BARBER
39
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
97
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
81
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
103
18
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
14
19
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
101
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396
DAVID HOLT
71
DAVID HOLT
93
DAVID HOLT
51
DAVID HOLT
83
DAVID HOLT
80
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
20
GARY ASWEGAN
21
21
GARY ASWEGAN
97
GARY ASWEGAN
10
GARY ASWEGAN
85
GARY ASWEGAN
79
GARY ASWEGAN
73
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365
PERRY CARLSON
42
PERRY CARLSON
79
22
PERRY CARLSON
102
23
PERRY CARLSON
83
PERRY CARLSON
58
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364
SIMON TVEDE
72
SIMON TVEDE
82
SIMON TVEDE
100
SIMON TVEDE
62
SIMON TVEDE
41
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
25
JOHN BRIGGS
77
JOHN BRIGGS
30
JOHN BRIGGS
100
JOHN BRIGGS
5
JOHN BRIGGS
89
JOHN BRIGGS
44
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
42
26
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
83
27
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
78
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
71
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
70
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344
TONY ACKROYD
85
TONY ACKROYD
41
TONY ACKROYD
24
TONY ACKROYD
61
28
TONY ACKROYD
47
29
TONY ACKROYD
82
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340
MATT ASHLEY
89
MATT ASHLEY
101
MATT ASHLEY
98
MATT ASHLEY
43
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331
MICHAEL WELSCH
80
30
MICHAEL WELSCH
83
31
MICHAEL WELSCH
95
MICHAEL WELSCH
73
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331
JERRY MELLERICK
16
JERRY MELLERICK
46
JERRY MELLERICK
25
JERRY MELLERICK
99
JERRY MELLERICK
101
32
JERRY MELLERICK
40
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327
HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
41
HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
87
HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
23
HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
96
HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
78
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325
RICHARD WILSON
96
34
RICHARD WILSON
80
35
RICHARD WILSON
69
RICHARD WILSON
41
RICHARD WILSON
30
RICHARD WILSON
4
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320
PHILLIP VOGEL
61
PHILLIP VOGEL
102
PHILLIP VOGEL
56
36
PHILLIP VOGEL
17
37
PHILLIP VOGEL
83
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319
STEVEN MCABEE
55
STEVEN MCABEE
100
STEVEN MCABEE
76
STEVEN MCABEE
65
STEVEN MCABEE
23
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
38
STEVE MULLER
63
39
STEVE MULLER
86
STEVE MULLER
97
STEVE MULLER
10
STEVE MULLER
53
STEVE MULLER
5
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314
STEPHEN ALLEN
93
STEPHEN ALLEN
57
40
STEPHEN ALLEN
43
41
STEPHEN ALLEN
86
STEPHEN ALLEN
34
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313
KIM ANDERSEN
62
KIM ANDERSEN
64
KIM ANDERSEN
101
KIM ANDERSEN
77
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
42
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
78
43
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
65
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
67
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
28
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
35
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
20
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293
CLIF WEATHERFORD
75
CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
44
CLIF WEATHERFORD
87
45
CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290
TIM JONES
83
TIM JONES
51
TIM JONES
26
TIM JONES
34
TIM JONES
95
33 TIM JONES Total 289
46
LEWIS MORTON
100
47
LEWIS MORTON
78
LEWIS MORTON
102
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280
JOSEPH HANIK
92
JOSEPH HANIK
66
JOSEPH HANIK
13
JOSEPH HANIK
4
JOSEPH HANIK
99
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
49
MICHAEL REISFELD
22
MICHAEL REISFELD
99
MICHAEL REISFELD
33
MICHAEL REISFELD
74
MICHAEL REISFELD
46
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
88
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
26
50
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
64
51
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
94
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272
KEVIN O'KEEFE
50
KEVIN O'KEEFE
14
KEVIN O'KEEFE
72
KEVIN O'KEEFE
96
KEVIN O'KEEFE
38
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
52
ULRIK BISGAARD
53
53
ULRIK BISGAARD
56
ULRIK BISGAARD
74
ULRIK BISGAARD
85
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268
DAVID MURRAY
88
DAVID MURRAY
35
DAVID MURRAY
57
DAVID MURRAY
84
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
55
KEVIN BOND
89
KEVIN BOND
36
KEVIN BOND
69
KEVIN BOND
70
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264
THOMAS PEDERSEN
49
THOMAS PEDERSEN
20
THOMAS PEDERSEN
68
56
THOMAS PEDERSEN
64
57
THOMAS PEDERSEN
62
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263
MICHAEL MULKA
99
MICHAEL MULKA
62
MICHAEL MULKA
95
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256
JOHN SEALS
104
JOHN SEALS
38
58
JOHN SEALS
11
59
JOHN SEALS
100
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253
STEVE LATHAM
89
STEVE LATHAM
51
STEVE LATHAM
34
STEVE LATHAM
23
STEVE LATHAM
55
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
60
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
67
61
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
58
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
65
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
61
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251
PER BOVBJERG
90
PER BOVBJERG
73
PER BOVBJERG
87
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
62
BRADFORD FISHER
17
63
BRADFORD FISHER
54
BRADFORD FISHER
4
BRADFORD FISHER
77
BRADFORD FISHER
97
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249
DAVID CRANE
94
DAVID CRANE
75
DAVID CRANE
79
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
65
RICHARD FARRER
79
RICHARD FARRER
71
RICHARD FARRER
31
RICHARD FARRER
64
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245
MARC PINSONNEAULT
89
MARC PINSONNEAULT
38
MARC PINSONNEAULT
39
66
MARC PINSONNEAULT
74
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240
MATT ANDERSON
61
MATT ANDERSON
25
MATT ANDERSON
69
MATT ANDERSON
85
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240
BRAD BRUNET
24
BRAD BRUNET
13
68
BRAD BRUNET
87
69
BRAD BRUNET
94
BRAD BRUNET
19
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237
PETER KESSLER
86
PETER KESSLER
48
PETER KESSLER
95
PETER KESSLER
6
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
70
SCOTT MOYES
37
71
SCOTT MOYES
98
SCOTT MOYES
44
SCOTT MOYES
56
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235
BRIAN HANSEN
86
BRIAN HANSEN
65
BRIAN HANSEN
78
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
72
PAUL SCHEEL
68
73
PAUL SCHEEL
15
PAUL SCHEEL
67
PAUL SCHEEL
77
PAUL SCHEEL
1
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228
HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
91
HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
92
HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
44
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
75
DARREN BEYER
97
DARREN BEYER
81
DARREN BEYER
47
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225
MICHAEL KAMINE
28
MICHAEL KAMINE
56
MICHAEL KAMINE
31
MICHAEL KAMINE
54
76
MICHAEL KAMINE
19
77
MICHAEL KAMINE
37
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225
BRAD STEPHENS
46
BRAD STEPHENS
93
BRAD STEPHENS
72
BRAD STEPHENS
13
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224
JASON VAFIADES
55
78
JASON VAFIADES
93
79
JASON VAFIADES
68
JASON VAFIADES
8
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224
MARK JEFFRIES
71
MARK JEFFRIES
51
MARK JEFFRIES
102
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224
FREDERICK YOUNG
96
80
FREDERICK YOUNG
79
81
FREDERICK YOUNG
48
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223
BRADDEN JENISON
14
BRADDEN JENISON
83
BRADDEN JENISON
33
BRADDEN JENISON
42
BRADDEN JENISON
49
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
82
JOHN SIMPSON
57
83
JOHN SIMPSON
88
JOHN SIMPSON
63
JOHN SIMPSON
12
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220
JASON MELE
39
JASON MELE
76
JASON MELE
93
67 JASON MELE Total 208
84
BRIAN THORSBRO
80
85
BRIAN THORSBRO
15
BRIAN THORSBRO
17
BRIAN THORSBRO
6
BRIAN THORSBRO
89
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207
BRETT HAVLIK
23
BRETT HAVLIK
62
BRETT HAVLIK
84
86
BRETT HAVLIK
7
87
BRETT HAVLIK
28
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204
BRIAN MARTIN
60
BRIAN MARTIN
6
BRIAN MARTIN
59
BRIAN MARTIN
18
BRIAN MARTIN
59
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
88
DARREN FRECHETTE
74
89
DARREN FRECHETTE
50
DARREN FRECHETTE
78
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202
THOMAS CRANE
2
THOMAS CRANE
102
THOMAS CRANE
52
THOMAS CRANE
45
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
90
WADE FROST
51
91
WADE FROST
53
WADE FROST
21
WADE FROST
76
73 WADE FROST Total 201
RON VALLI
43
RON VALLI
30
RON VALLI
17
RON VALLI
27
92
RON VALLI
80
74 RON VALLI Total 197
BERND LUEHRSEN
96
BERND LUEHRSEN
59
BERND LUEHRSEN
41
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196
GREG CLARKE
42
GREG CLARKE
81
GREG CLARKE
73
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
95
TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
39
TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
86
TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
66
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191
RICHARD MEHL
82
RICHARD MEHL
44
RICHARD MEHL
3
RICHARD MEHL
61
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
97
BEN SHUSHAN
100
BEN SHUSHAN
28
BEN SHUSHAN
61
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189
SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
45
SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
94
SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
49
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
98
MARK JAEDE
95
99
MARK JAEDE
31
MARK JAEDE
58
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184
GARY HOOLEY
79
GARY HOOLEY
98
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177
PAUL BRANDON
101
PAUL BRANDON
76
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
101
R KEVIN GIVEN
34
R KEVIN GIVEN
48
R KEVIN GIVEN
29
R KEVIN GIVEN
66
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177
JAVIER MAQUA
41
JAVIER MAQUA
62
JAVIER MAQUA
38
102
JAVIER MAQUA
27
103
JAVIER MAQUA
2
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170
ADRIAN BEATTIE
40
ADRIAN BEATTIE
39
ADRIAN BEATTIE
90
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169
JEFF GLOVER
95
JEFF GLOVER
42
104
JEFF GLOVER
32
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169
CHRIS MCGOWAN
75
CHRIS MCGOWAN
91
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166
ALAIN DEURWAERDER
68
ALAIN DEURWAERDER
96
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164
DARIN THIESSEN
40
106
DARIN THIESSEN
60
107
DARIN THIESSEN
63
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163
JOHN STRACHAN
33
JOHN STRACHAN
76
JOHN STRACHAN
53
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162
THOMAS KAMPMANN
59
THOMAS KAMPMANN
76
108
THOMAS KAMPMANN
22
109
THOMAS KAMPMANN
3
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160
CHRIS HIND
53
CHRIS HIND
39
CHRIS HIND
52
CHRIS HIND
14
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158
KEVIN BROWN
93
110
KEVIN BROWN
8
111
KEVIN BROWN
57
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158
MARK STUCKEY
90
MARK STUCKEY
68
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158
RUNE RUNESEN
66
RUNE RUNESEN
92
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
112
TOM FRANCIS
84
113
TOM FRANCIS
67
TOM FRANCIS
7
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158
ANJA KAEHLER
47
ANJA KAEHLER
36
ANJA KAEHLER
37
ANJA KAEHLER
37
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
114
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
70
115
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
18
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
69
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157
JOHN STAGOLL
81
JOHN STAGOLL
16
JOHN STAGOLL
24
JOHN STAGOLL
35
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156
Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.
Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.
Cheers
Tony
(lighting blue touch paper and standing well back)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
the list is flawed......I`m in it! 
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JB
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--- Tony & Janette <janton@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating
System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari
(Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul
(Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on
each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for
104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to
the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm
players......ever.Player Points
CLINT OLDRIDGE
101CLINT OLDRIDGE
92CLINT OLDRIDGE
104CLINT OLDRIDGE
95CLINT OLDRIDGE
103CLINT OLDRIDGE
99CLINT OLDRIDGE
84
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678ANDREW JONES
103ANDREW JONES
101ANDREW JONES
98ANDREW JONES
82ANDREW JONES
66ANDREW JONES
60ANDREW JONES
42
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3
RICARD PITARQUE
35RICARD PITARQUE
85RICARD PITARQUE
103RICARD PITARQUE
102RICARD PITARQUE
104RICARD PITARQUE
75
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504LAURENCE TILLEY
55
4
LAURENCE TILLEY
84
5
LAURENCE TILLEY
81LAURENCE TILLEY
47LAURENCE TILLEY
71LAURENCE TILLEY
90LAURENCE TILLEY
65
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
77
6
ERNEST HAKEY
94
7
ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
103
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482MIKE SANKEY
99MIKE SANKEY
90MIKE SANKEY
97MIKE SANKEY
49MIKE SANKEY
56
8
MIKE SANKEY
90
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481SAM ROADS
98SAM ROADS
84SAM ROADS
26SAM ROADS
81SAM ROADS
88SAM ROADS
103
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
10
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
94
11
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
99JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
89JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
93JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
104
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
87THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
91THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
104
12
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
53
13
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
57THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
86
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478CHRIS GUISE
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Player Points
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290
33 TIM JONES Total 289
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220
67 JASON MELE Total 208
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
73 WADE FROST Total 201
74 RON VALLI Total 197
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156
Tony & Janette wrote:
···
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104 players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.
Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.Cheers
Tony
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Should it not be the top 99 players to give MEPBM money??
VBG
William
Without all the crap....
Player Points
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290
33 TIM JONES Total 289
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220
67 JASON MELE Total 208
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
73 WADE FROST Total 201
74 RON VALLI Total 197
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156Tony & Janette wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Woo...is this going to get some people going....
>
>What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores
for all
>the 7 measures on the website:
>Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success),
Best
>Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win
percentage).
>Then I've given people points for their position on each list of
104
>players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
>Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.
>
>This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
>
>
>
>
>Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists
are very
>subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so
should
>get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do
that. Also
>some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell
of a thing.
>
>Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24
play
>each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th,
etc, but
>practically this is not going to happen, given that some people
are in
>too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get
on with
>each other any more, etc.
>So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and
take the
···
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>first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.
>
>Cheers
>
>Tony
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>
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Now this is funny. I've played with or against quite a few on this list, and I'd grant most of 'em their due (I am in a grudge game right now with probably seven or eight of them); but some of those guys on this list, from personal experience, are bozos. <g> Without bothering to delve into the formulae per se, I'd venture to guess that one's PRS score is heavily influenced by that initial questionaire that I ignored <bg> and by how many games one plays. The only part of the PRS I bother to look at are the best enemy and best ally lists of player votes. But even then, some guys have been voted MVP in more games than some of us have completed in the PRS era...
Drew
···
Tony & Janette <janton@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.
This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.
Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.
Cheers
Tony
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Should it not be the top 99 players to give MEPBM money??
That's fine with me... technically I've given more money than you guys (check out my over-draft!) ... but understand the point and am perfectly happy not to be included (nor any other GMs). Free play for me means that my ratings are higher than I think fair for a similarly talented (cough) paying customer but other players have played the game for longer periods of time. Ditto for the PRS in general but partially want to show that we're okay at playing the game as well...
VBG
Moi aussi!
Clint
...and I am on it and up high, so it is definitely flawed.
Randy
----Original Message Follows----
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From: Jeff Glover <paolotendes@yahoo.com>
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To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] The Best Ever Middle Earth Play By Mail Top 100 Players!
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:25:57 +0100 (BST)
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I'm on the list too, but it only counts where you appear on the PRS pages. My Istari rank is so low that if the actual numbers on the database were used, based on the top 104 in each rank, I'd be a nice comfortable -456 or so, likely in 524'th place. That being said, where can I ship my gold...?
Brad Brunet
···
Randy Brady <bradyr@hotmail.com> wrote:
...and I am on it and up high, so it is definitely flawed.
Randy
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Players!
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:25:57 +0100 (BST)
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To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] The Best Ever Middle Earth Play By Mail Top 100 Players!
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:20:14 +0100Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Player Points
CLINT OLDRIDGE
101CLINT OLDRIDGE
92CLINT OLDRIDGE
104CLINT OLDRIDGE
95CLINT OLDRIDGE
103CLINT OLDRIDGE
99CLINT OLDRIDGE
84
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678ANDREW JONES
103ANDREW JONES
101ANDREW JONES
98ANDREW JONES
82ANDREW JONES
66ANDREW JONES
60ANDREW JONES
42
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3
RICARD PITARQUE
35RICARD PITARQUE
85RICARD PITARQUE
103RICARD PITARQUE
102RICARD PITARQUE
104RICARD PITARQUE
75
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504LAURENCE TILLEY
55
4
LAURENCE TILLEY
84
5
LAURENCE TILLEY
81LAURENCE TILLEY
47LAURENCE TILLEY
71LAURENCE TILLEY
90LAURENCE TILLEY
65
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
77
6
ERNEST HAKEY
94
7
ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
103
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482MIKE SANKEY
99MIKE SANKEY
90MIKE SANKEY
97MIKE SANKEY
49MIKE SANKEY
56
8
MIKE SANKEY
90
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481SAM ROADS
98SAM ROADS
84SAM ROADS
26SAM ROADS
81SAM ROADS
88SAM ROADS
103
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
10
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
94
11
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
99JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
89JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
93JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
104
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
87THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
91THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
104
12
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
53
13
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
57THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
86
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478CHRIS GUISE
67CHRIS GUISE
103CHRIS GUISE
20CHRIS GUISE
98CHRIS GUISE
92
14
CHRIS GUISE
88
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468RANDALL BRADY
102RANDALL BRADY
98RANDALL BRADY
49RANDALL BRADY
75RANDALL BRADY
91
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415MIKE BARBER
91
16
MIKE BARBER
77
17
MIKE BARBER
38MIKE BARBER
75MIKE BARBER
91MIKE BARBER
39
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411CHESLEY COUGHLIN
97CHESLEY COUGHLIN
81CHESLEY COUGHLIN
103
18
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
14
19
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
101
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396DAVID HOLT
71DAVID HOLT
93DAVID HOLT
51DAVID HOLT
83DAVID HOLT
80
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
20
GARY ASWEGAN
21
GARY ASWEGAN
97GARY ASWEGAN
10GARY ASWEGAN
85GARY ASWEGAN
79GARY ASWEGAN
73
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365PERRY CARLSON
42PERRY CARLSON
79
22
PERRY CARLSON
102
23
PERRY CARLSON
83PERRY CARLSON
58
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364SIMON TVEDE
72SIMON TVEDE
82SIMON TVEDE
100SIMON TVEDE
62SIMON TVEDE
41
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
25
JOHN BRIGGS
77JOHN BRIGGS
30JOHN BRIGGS
100JOHN BRIGGS
5JOHN BRIGGS
89JOHN BRIGGS
44
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
42
26
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
83
27
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
78LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
71LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
70
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344TONY ACKROYD
85TONY ACKROYD
41TONY ACKROYD
24TONY ACKROYD
61
28
TONY ACKROYD
47
29
TONY ACKROYD
82
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340MATT ASHLEY
89MATT ASHLEY
101MATT ASHLEY
98MATT ASHLEY
43
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331MICHAEL WELSCH
80
30
MICHAEL WELSCH
83
31
MICHAEL WELSCH
95MICHAEL WELSCH
73
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331JERRY MELLERICK
16JERRY MELLERICK
46JERRY MELLERICK
25JERRY MELLERICK
99JERRY MELLERICK
101
32
JERRY MELLERICK
40
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
41HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
87HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
23HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
96HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
78
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325RICHARD WILSON
96
34
RICHARD WILSON
80
35
RICHARD WILSON
69RICHARD WILSON
41RICHARD WILSON
30RICHARD WILSON
4
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320PHILLIP VOGEL
61PHILLIP VOGEL
102PHILLIP VOGEL
56
36
PHILLIP VOGEL
17
37
PHILLIP VOGEL
83
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319STEVEN MCABEE
55STEVEN MCABEE
100STEVEN MCABEE
76STEVEN MCABEE
65STEVEN MCABEE
23
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
38
STEVE MULLER
63
39
STEVE MULLER
86STEVE MULLER
97STEVE MULLER
10STEVE MULLER
53STEVE MULLER
5
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314STEPHEN ALLEN
93STEPHEN ALLEN
57
40
STEPHEN ALLEN
43
41
STEPHEN ALLEN
86STEPHEN ALLEN
34
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313KIM ANDERSEN
62KIM ANDERSEN
64KIM ANDERSEN
101KIM ANDERSEN
77
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
42
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
78
43
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
65BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
67BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
28BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
35BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
20
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293CLIF WEATHERFORD
75CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
44
CLIF WEATHERFORD
87
45
CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290TIM JONES
83TIM JONES
51TIM JONES
26TIM JONES
34TIM JONES
95
33 TIM JONES Total 289
46
LEWIS MORTON
100
47
LEWIS MORTON
78LEWIS MORTON
102
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280JOSEPH HANIK
92JOSEPH HANIK
66JOSEPH HANIK
13JOSEPH HANIK
4JOSEPH HANIK
99
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
49
MICHAEL REISFELD
22MICHAEL REISFELD
99MICHAEL REISFELD
33MICHAEL REISFELD
74MICHAEL REISFELD
46
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
88BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
26
50
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
64
51
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
94
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272KEVIN O'KEEFE
50KEVIN O'KEEFE
14KEVIN O'KEEFE
72KEVIN O'KEEFE
96KEVIN O'KEEFE
38
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
52
ULRIK BISGAARD
53
ULRIK BISGAARD
56ULRIK BISGAARD
74ULRIK BISGAARD
85
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268DAVID MURRAY
88DAVID MURRAY
35DAVID MURRAY
57DAVID MURRAY
84
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
55
KEVIN BOND
89KEVIN BOND
36KEVIN BOND
69KEVIN BOND
70
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264THOMAS PEDERSEN
49THOMAS PEDERSEN
20THOMAS PEDERSEN
68
56
THOMAS PEDERSEN
64
57
THOMAS PEDERSEN
62
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263MICHAEL MULKA
99MICHAEL MULKA
62MICHAEL MULKA
95
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256JOHN SEALS
104JOHN SEALS
38
58
JOHN SEALS
11
59
JOHN SEALS
100
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253STEVE LATHAM
89STEVE LATHAM
51STEVE LATHAM
34STEVE LATHAM
23STEVE LATHAM
55
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
60
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
67
61
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
58JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
65JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
61
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251PER BOVBJERG
90PER BOVBJERG
73PER BOVBJERG
87
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
62
BRADFORD FISHER
17
63
BRADFORD FISHER
54BRADFORD FISHER
4BRADFORD FISHER
77BRADFORD FISHER
97
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249DAVID CRANE
94DAVID CRANE
75DAVID CRANE
79
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
65
RICHARD FARRER
79RICHARD FARRER
71RICHARD FARRER
31RICHARD FARRER
64
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245MARC PINSONNEAULT
89MARC PINSONNEAULT
38MARC PINSONNEAULT
39
66
MARC PINSONNEAULT
74
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240MATT ANDERSON
61MATT ANDERSON
25MATT ANDERSON
69MATT ANDERSON
85
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240BRAD BRUNET
24BRAD BRUNET
13
68
BRAD BRUNET
87
69
BRAD BRUNET
94BRAD BRUNET
19
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237PETER KESSLER
86PETER KESSLER
48PETER KESSLER
95PETER KESSLER
6
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
70
SCOTT MOYES
37
71
SCOTT MOYES
98SCOTT MOYES
44SCOTT MOYES
56
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235BRIAN HANSEN
86BRIAN HANSEN
65BRIAN HANSEN
78
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
72
PAUL SCHEEL
68
73
PAUL SCHEEL
15PAUL SCHEEL
67PAUL SCHEEL
77PAUL SCHEEL
1
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
91HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
92HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
44
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
75
DARREN BEYER
97DARREN BEYER
81DARREN BEYER
47
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225MICHAEL KAMINE
28MICHAEL KAMINE
56MICHAEL KAMINE
31MICHAEL KAMINE
54
76
MICHAEL KAMINE
19
77
MICHAEL KAMINE
37
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225BRAD STEPHENS
46BRAD STEPHENS
93BRAD STEPHENS
72BRAD STEPHENS
13
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224JASON VAFIADES
55
78
JASON VAFIADES
93
79
JASON VAFIADES
68JASON VAFIADES
8
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224MARK JEFFRIES
71MARK JEFFRIES
51MARK JEFFRIES
102
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224FREDERICK YOUNG
96
80
FREDERICK YOUNG
79
81
FREDERICK YOUNG
48
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223BRADDEN JENISON
14BRADDEN JENISON
83BRADDEN JENISON
33BRADDEN JENISON
42BRADDEN JENISON
49
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
82
JOHN SIMPSON
57
83
JOHN SIMPSON
88JOHN SIMPSON
63JOHN SIMPSON
12
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220JASON MELE
39JASON MELE
76JASON MELE
93
67 JASON MELE Total 208
84
BRIAN THORSBRO
80
85
BRIAN THORSBRO
15BRIAN THORSBRO
17BRIAN THORSBRO
6BRIAN THORSBRO
89
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207BRETT HAVLIK
23BRETT HAVLIK
62BRETT HAVLIK
84
86
BRETT HAVLIK
7
87
BRETT HAVLIK
28
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204BRIAN MARTIN
60BRIAN MARTIN
6BRIAN MARTIN
59BRIAN MARTIN
18BRIAN MARTIN
59
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
88
DARREN FRECHETTE
74
89
DARREN FRECHETTE
50DARREN FRECHETTE
78
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202THOMAS CRANE
2THOMAS CRANE
102THOMAS CRANE
52THOMAS CRANE
45
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
90
WADE FROST
51
91
WADE FROST
53WADE FROST
21WADE FROST
76
73 WADE FROST Total 201RON VALLI
43RON VALLI
30RON VALLI
17RON VALLI
27
92
RON VALLI
80
74 RON VALLI Total 197BERND LUEHRSEN
96BERND LUEHRSEN
59BERND LUEHRSEN
41
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196GREG CLARKE
42GREG CLARKE
81GREG CLARKE
73
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
95
TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
39TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
86TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
66
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191RICHARD MEHL
82RICHARD MEHL
44RICHARD MEHL
3RICHARD MEHL
61
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
97
BEN SHUSHAN
100BEN SHUSHAN
28BEN SHUSHAN
61
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
45SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
94SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
49
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
98
MARK JAEDE
95
99
MARK JAEDE
31MARK JAEDE
58
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184GARY HOOLEY
79GARY HOOLEY
98
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177PAUL BRANDON
101PAUL BRANDON
76
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
101
R KEVIN GIVEN
34R KEVIN GIVEN
48R KEVIN GIVEN
29R KEVIN GIVEN
66
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177JAVIER MAQUA
41JAVIER MAQUA
62JAVIER MAQUA
38
102
JAVIER MAQUA
27
103
JAVIER MAQUA
2
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170ADRIAN BEATTIE
40ADRIAN BEATTIE
39ADRIAN BEATTIE
90
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169JEFF GLOVER
95JEFF GLOVER
42
104
JEFF GLOVER
32
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169CHRIS MCGOWAN
75CHRIS MCGOWAN
91
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166ALAIN DEURWAERDER
68ALAIN DEURWAERDER
96
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164DARIN THIESSEN
40
106
DARIN THIESSEN
60
107
DARIN THIESSEN
63
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163JOHN STRACHAN
33JOHN STRACHAN
76JOHN STRACHAN
53
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162THOMAS KAMPMANN
59THOMAS KAMPMANN
76
108
THOMAS KAMPMANN
22
109
THOMAS KAMPMANN
3
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160CHRIS HIND
53CHRIS HIND
39CHRIS HIND
52CHRIS HIND
14
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158KEVIN BROWN
93
110
KEVIN BROWN
8
111
KEVIN BROWN
57
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158MARK STUCKEY
90MARK STUCKEY
68
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158RUNE RUNESEN
66RUNE RUNESEN
92
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
112
TOM FRANCIS
84
113
TOM FRANCIS
67TOM FRANCIS
7
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158ANJA KAEHLER
47ANJA KAEHLER
36ANJA KAEHLER
37ANJA KAEHLER
37
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
114
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
70
115
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
18STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
69
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157JOHN STAGOLL
81JOHN STAGOLL
16JOHN STAGOLL
24JOHN STAGOLL
35
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.Cheers
Tony
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No, there's still some crap in it. <vbg>
Tony & Janette <janton@ntlworld.com> wrote:Without all the crap....
Player Points
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290
33 TIM JONES Total 289
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220
67 JASON MELE Total 208
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
73 WADE FROST Total 201
74 RON VALLI Total 197
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156
Tony & Janette wrote:
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.Cheers
Tony
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Ovatha Easterling <ovatha88@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Tony & Janette <janton@ntlworld.com>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] The Best Ever Middle Earth Play By Mail Top 100
Players!
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:20:14 +0100Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Player Points
CLINT OLDRIDGE
101CLINT OLDRIDGE
92CLINT OLDRIDGE
104CLINT OLDRIDGE
95CLINT OLDRIDGE
103CLINT OLDRIDGE
99CLINT OLDRIDGE
84
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678ANDREW JONES
103ANDREW JONES
101ANDREW JONES
98ANDREW JONES
82ANDREW JONES
66ANDREW JONES
60ANDREW JONES
42
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3
RICARD PITARQUE
35RICARD PITARQUE
85RICARD PITARQUE
103RICARD PITARQUE
102RICARD PITARQUE
104RICARD PITARQUE
75
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504LAURENCE TILLEY
55
4
LAURENCE TILLEY
84
5
LAURENCE TILLEY
81LAURENCE TILLEY
47LAURENCE TILLEY
71LAURENCE TILLEY
90LAURENCE TILLEY
65
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
77
6
ERNEST HAKEY
94
7
ERNEST HAKEY
104ERNEST HAKEY
103
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482MIKE SANKEY
99MIKE SANKEY
90MIKE SANKEY
97MIKE SANKEY
49MIKE SANKEY
56
8
MIKE SANKEY
90
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481SAM ROADS
98SAM ROADS
84SAM ROADS
26SAM ROADS
81SAM ROADS
88SAM ROADS
103
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
10
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
94
11
JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
99JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
89JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
93JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER
104
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
87THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
91THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
104
12
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
53
13
THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
57THOMAS KRISTIANSEN
86
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478CHRIS GUISE
67CHRIS GUISE
103CHRIS GUISE
20CHRIS GUISE
98CHRIS GUISE
92
14
CHRIS GUISE
88
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468RANDALL BRADY
102RANDALL BRADY
98RANDALL BRADY
49RANDALL BRADY
75RANDALL BRADY
91
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415MIKE BARBER
91
16
MIKE BARBER
77
17
MIKE BARBER
38MIKE BARBER
75MIKE BARBER
91MIKE BARBER
39
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411CHESLEY COUGHLIN
97CHESLEY COUGHLIN
81CHESLEY COUGHLIN
103
18
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
14
19
CHESLEY COUGHLIN
101
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396DAVID HOLT
71DAVID HOLT
93DAVID HOLT
51DAVID HOLT
83DAVID HOLT
80
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
20
GARY ASWEGAN
21
21
GARY ASWEGAN
97GARY ASWEGAN
10GARY ASWEGAN
85GARY ASWEGAN
79GARY ASWEGAN
73
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365PERRY CARLSON
42PERRY CARLSON
79
22
PERRY CARLSON
102
23
PERRY CARLSON
83PERRY CARLSON
58
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364SIMON TVEDE
72SIMON TVEDE
82SIMON TVEDE
100SIMON TVEDE
62SIMON TVEDE
41
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
25
JOHN BRIGGS
77JOHN BRIGGS
30JOHN BRIGGS
100JOHN BRIGGS
5JOHN BRIGGS
89JOHN BRIGGS
44
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
42
26
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
83
27
LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
78LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
71LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN
70
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344TONY ACKROYD
85TONY ACKROYD
41TONY ACKROYD
24TONY ACKROYD
61
28
TONY ACKROYD
47
29
TONY ACKROYD
82
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340MATT ASHLEY
89MATT ASHLEY
101MATT ASHLEY
98MATT ASHLEY
43
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331MICHAEL WELSCH
80
30
MICHAEL WELSCH
83
31
MICHAEL WELSCH
95MICHAEL WELSCH
73
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331JERRY MELLERICK
16JERRY MELLERICK
46JERRY MELLERICK
25JERRY MELLERICK
99JERRY MELLERICK
101
32
JERRY MELLERICK
40
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
41HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
87HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
23HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
96HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH
78
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325RICHARD WILSON
96
34
RICHARD WILSON
80
35
RICHARD WILSON
69RICHARD WILSON
41RICHARD WILSON
30RICHARD WILSON
4
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320PHILLIP VOGEL
61PHILLIP VOGEL
102PHILLIP VOGEL
56
36
PHILLIP VOGEL
17
37
PHILLIP VOGEL
83
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319STEVEN MCABEE
55STEVEN MCABEE
100STEVEN MCABEE
76STEVEN MCABEE
65STEVEN MCABEE
23
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
38
STEVE MULLER
63
39
STEVE MULLER
86STEVE MULLER
97STEVE MULLER
10STEVE MULLER
53STEVE MULLER
5
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314STEPHEN ALLEN
93STEPHEN ALLEN
57
40
STEPHEN ALLEN
43
41
STEPHEN ALLEN
86STEPHEN ALLEN
34
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313KIM ANDERSEN
62KIM ANDERSEN
64KIM ANDERSEN
101KIM ANDERSEN
77
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
42
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
78
43
BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
65BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
67BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
28BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
35BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK
20
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293CLIF WEATHERFORD
75CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
44
CLIF WEATHERFORD
87
45
CLIF WEATHERFORD
64
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290TIM JONES
83TIM JONES
51TIM JONES
26TIM JONES
34TIM JONES
95
33 TIM JONES Total 289
46
LEWIS MORTON
100
47
LEWIS MORTON
78LEWIS MORTON
102
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280JOSEPH HANIK
92JOSEPH HANIK
66JOSEPH HANIK
13JOSEPH HANIK
4JOSEPH HANIK
99
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
49
MICHAEL REISFELD
22MICHAEL REISFELD
99MICHAEL REISFELD
33MICHAEL REISFELD
74MICHAEL REISFELD
46
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
88BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
26
50
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
64
51
BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK
94
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272KEVIN O'KEEFE
50KEVIN O'KEEFE
14KEVIN O'KEEFE
72KEVIN O'KEEFE
96KEVIN O'KEEFE
38
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
52
ULRIK BISGAARD
53
53
ULRIK BISGAARD
56ULRIK BISGAARD
74ULRIK BISGAARD
85
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268DAVID MURRAY
88DAVID MURRAY
35DAVID MURRAY
57DAVID MURRAY
84
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
55
KEVIN BOND
89KEVIN BOND
36KEVIN BOND
69KEVIN BOND
70
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264THOMAS PEDERSEN
49THOMAS PEDERSEN
20THOMAS PEDERSEN
68
56
THOMAS PEDERSEN
64
57
THOMAS PEDERSEN
62
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263MICHAEL MULKA
99MICHAEL MULKA
62MICHAEL MULKA
95
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256JOHN SEALS
104JOHN SEALS
38
58
JOHN SEALS
11
59
JOHN SEALS
100
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253STEVE LATHAM
89STEVE LATHAM
51STEVE LATHAM
34STEVE LATHAM
23STEVE LATHAM
55
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
60
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
67
61
JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
58JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
65JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD
61
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251PER BOVBJERG
90PER BOVBJERG
73PER BOVBJERG
87
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
62
BRADFORD FISHER
17
63
BRADFORD FISHER
54BRADFORD FISHER
4BRADFORD FISHER
77BRADFORD FISHER
97
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249DAVID CRANE
94DAVID CRANE
75DAVID CRANE
79
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
65
RICHARD FARRER
79RICHARD FARRER
71RICHARD FARRER
31RICHARD FARRER
64
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245MARC PINSONNEAULT
89MARC PINSONNEAULT
38MARC PINSONNEAULT
39
66
MARC PINSONNEAULT
74
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240MATT ANDERSON
61MATT ANDERSON
25MATT ANDERSON
69MATT ANDERSON
85
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240BRAD BRUNET
24BRAD BRUNET
13
68
BRAD BRUNET
87
69
BRAD BRUNET
94BRAD BRUNET
19
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237PETER KESSLER
86PETER KESSLER
48PETER KESSLER
95PETER KESSLER
6
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
70
SCOTT MOYES
37
71
SCOTT MOYES
98SCOTT MOYES
44SCOTT MOYES
56
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235BRIAN HANSEN
86BRIAN HANSEN
65BRIAN HANSEN
78
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
72
PAUL SCHEEL
68
73
PAUL SCHEEL
15PAUL SCHEEL
67PAUL SCHEEL
77PAUL SCHEEL
1
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
91HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
92HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS
44
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
75
DARREN BEYER
97DARREN BEYER
81DARREN BEYER
47
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225MICHAEL KAMINE
28MICHAEL KAMINE
56MICHAEL KAMINE
31MICHAEL KAMINE
54
76
MICHAEL KAMINE
19
77
MICHAEL KAMINE
37
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225BRAD STEPHENS
46BRAD STEPHENS
93BRAD STEPHENS
72BRAD STEPHENS
13
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224JASON VAFIADES
55
78
JASON VAFIADES
93
79
JASON VAFIADES
68JASON VAFIADES
8
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224MARK JEFFRIES
71MARK JEFFRIES
51MARK JEFFRIES
102
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224FREDERICK YOUNG
96
80
FREDERICK YOUNG
79
81
FREDERICK YOUNG
48
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223BRADDEN JENISON
14BRADDEN JENISON
83BRADDEN JENISON
33BRADDEN JENISON
42BRADDEN JENISON
49
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
82
JOHN SIMPSON
57
83
JOHN SIMPSON
88JOHN SIMPSON
63JOHN SIMPSON
12
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220JASON MELE
39JASON MELE
76JASON MELE
93
67 JASON MELE Total 208
84
BRIAN THORSBRO
80
85
BRIAN THORSBRO
15BRIAN THORSBRO
17BRIAN THORSBRO
6BRIAN THORSBRO
89
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207BRETT HAVLIK
23BRETT HAVLIK
62BRETT HAVLIK
84
86
BRETT HAVLIK
7
87
BRETT HAVLIK
28
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204BRIAN MARTIN
60BRIAN MARTIN
6BRIAN MARTIN
59BRIAN MARTIN
18BRIAN MARTIN
59
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
88
DARREN FRECHETTE
74
89
DARREN FRECHETTE
50DARREN FRECHETTE
78
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202THOMAS CRANE
2THOMAS CRANE
102THOMAS CRANE
52THOMAS CRANE
45
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
90
WADE FROST
51
91
WADE FROST
53WADE FROST
21WADE FROST
76
73 WADE FROST Total 201RON VALLI
43RON VALLI
30RON VALLI
17RON VALLI
27
92
RON VALLI
80
74 RON VALLI Total 197BERND LUEHRSEN
96BERND LUEHRSEN
59BERND LUEHRSEN
41
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196GREG CLARKE
42GREG CLARKE
81GREG CLARKE
73
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
95
TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
39TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
86TONIA HARTOFYLAKA
66
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191RICHARD MEHL
82RICHARD MEHL
44RICHARD MEHL
3RICHARD MEHL
61
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
97
BEN SHUSHAN
100BEN SHUSHAN
28BEN SHUSHAN
61
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
45SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
94SIMON DUNSTERVILLE
49
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
98
MARK JAEDE
95
99
MARK JAEDE
31MARK JAEDE
58
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184GARY HOOLEY
79GARY HOOLEY
98
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177PAUL BRANDON
101PAUL BRANDON
76
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
101
R KEVIN GIVEN
34R KEVIN GIVEN
48R KEVIN GIVEN
29R KEVIN GIVEN
66
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177JAVIER MAQUA
41JAVIER MAQUA
62JAVIER MAQUA
38
102
JAVIER MAQUA
27
103
JAVIER MAQUA
2
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170ADRIAN BEATTIE
40ADRIAN BEATTIE
39ADRIAN BEATTIE
90
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169JEFF GLOVER
95JEFF GLOVER
42
104
JEFF GLOVER
32
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169CHRIS MCGOWAN
75CHRIS MCGOWAN
91
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166ALAIN DEURWAERDER
68ALAIN DEURWAERDER
96
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164DARIN THIESSEN
40
106
DARIN THIESSEN
60
107
DARIN THIESSEN
63
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163JOHN STRACHAN
33JOHN STRACHAN
76JOHN STRACHAN
53
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162THOMAS KAMPMANN
59THOMAS KAMPMANN
76
108
THOMAS KAMPMANN
22
109
THOMAS KAMPMANN
3
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160CHRIS HIND
53CHRIS HIND
39CHRIS HIND
52CHRIS HIND
14
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158KEVIN BROWN
93
110
KEVIN BROWN
8
111
KEVIN BROWN
57
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158MARK STUCKEY
90MARK STUCKEY
68
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158RUNE RUNESEN
66RUNE RUNESEN
92
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
112
TOM FRANCIS
84
113
TOM FRANCIS
67TOM FRANCIS
7
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158ANJA KAEHLER
47ANJA KAEHLER
36ANJA KAEHLER
37ANJA KAEHLER
37
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
114
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
70
115
STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
18STEVEN PRINDEVILLE
69
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157JOHN STAGOLL
81JOHN STAGOLL
16JOHN STAGOLL
24JOHN STAGOLL
35
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a
thing.Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.Cheers
Tony
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The biggest problem with this list is it doesn't have any data from the
pre-Harlequin/Middle Earth Games days. Some seriously good players who
either aren't around much anymore or only play in grudge games are
missing from this list.
Please let me be clear - I'm not criticizing at all. You clearly laid
out the "parameters" of the data (and thus the inherent limitations of
the output).
Beyond that, it's an interesting data set. Thanks for the effort.
All Hail Clint!
b
Tony & Janette wrote:
Without all the crap....
Player Points
1 CLINT OLDRIDGE Total 678
2 ANDREW JONES Total 552
3 RICARD PITARQUE Total 504
4 LAURENCE TILLEY Total 493
5 ERNEST HAKEY Total 482
6 MIKE SANKEY Total 481
7 SAM ROADS Total 480
8 JEPPE SKYTTE SPICKER Total 479
9 THOMAS KRISTIANSEN Total 478
10 CHRIS GUISE Total 468
11 RANDALL BRADY Total 415
12 MIKE BARBER Total 411
13 CHESLEY COUGHLIN Total 396
14 DAVID HOLT Total 378
15 GARY ASWEGAN Total 365
16 PERRY CARLSON Total 364
17 SIMON TVEDE Total 357
18 JOHN BRIGGS Total 345
19 LUDVIG KOCH HANSEN Total 344
20 TONY ACKROYD Total 340
21 MATT ASHLEY Total 331
22 MICHAEL WELSCH Total 331
23 JERRY MELLERICK Total 327
24 HANS-HERMANN BRAUCH Total 325
25 RICHARD WILSON Total 320
26 PHILLIP VOGEL Total 319
27 STEVEN MCABEE Total 319
28 STEVE MULLER Total 314
29 STEPHEN ALLEN Total 313
30 KIM ANDERSEN Total 304
31 BRENDAN MCGOLDRICK Total 293
32 CLIF WEATHERFORD Total 290
33 TIM JONES Total 289
34 LEWIS MORTON Total 280
35 JOSEPH HANIK Total 274
36 MICHAEL REISFELD Total 274
37 BENJAMIN VAN BUSKIRK Total 272
38 KEVIN O'KEEFE Total 270
39 ULRIK BISGAARD Total 268
40 DAVID MURRAY Total 264
41 KEVIN BOND Total 264
42 THOMAS PEDERSEN Total 263
43 MICHAEL MULKA Total 256
44 JOHN SEALS Total 253
45 STEVE LATHAM Total 252
46 JENS CHRISTIAN STORGAARD Total 251
47 PER BOVBJERG Total 250
48 BRADFORD FISHER Total 249
49 DAVID CRANE Total 248
50 RICHARD FARRER Total 245
51 MARC PINSONNEAULT Total 240
52 MATT ANDERSON Total 240
53 BRAD BRUNET Total 237
54 PETER KESSLER Total 235
55 SCOTT MOYES Total 235
56 BRIAN HANSEN Total 229
57 PAUL SCHEEL Total 228
58 HARRY NIKOKAVOURAS Total 227
59 DARREN BEYER Total 225
60 MICHAEL KAMINE Total 225
61 BRAD STEPHENS Total 224
62 JASON VAFIADES Total 224
63 MARK JEFFRIES Total 224
64 FREDERICK YOUNG Total 223
65 BRADDEN JENISON Total 221
66 JOHN SIMPSON Total 220
67 JASON MELE Total 208
68 BRIAN THORSBRO Total 207
69 BRETT HAVLIK Total 204
70 BRIAN MARTIN Total 202
71 DARREN FRECHETTE Total 202
72 THOMAS CRANE Total 201
73 WADE FROST Total 201
74 RON VALLI Total 197
75 BERND LUEHRSEN Total 196
76 GREG CLARKE Total 196
77 TONIA HARTOFYLAKA Total 191
78 RICHARD MEHL Total 190
79 BEN SHUSHAN Total 189
80 SIMON DUNSTERVILLE Total 188
81 MARK JAEDE Total 184
82 GARY HOOLEY Total 177
83 PAUL BRANDON Total 177
84 R KEVIN GIVEN Total 177
85 JAVIER MAQUA Total 170
86 ADRIAN BEATTIE Total 169
87 JEFF GLOVER Total 169
88 CHRIS MCGOWAN Total 166
89 ALAIN DEURWAERDER Total 164
90 DARIN THIESSEN Total 163
91 JOHN STRACHAN Total 162
92 THOMAS KAMPMANN Total 160
93 CHRIS HIND Total 158
94 KEVIN BROWN Total 158
95 MARK STUCKEY Total 158
96 RUNE RUNESEN Total 158
97 TOM FRANCIS Total 158
98 ANJA KAEHLER Total 157
99 STEVEN PRINDEVILLE Total 157
100 JOHN STAGOLL Total 156Tony & Janette wrote:
Hi All
Woo...is this going to get some people going....
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating System scores for all
the 7 measures on the website:
Valar (Chess Style), Maia (Experience), Istari (Nation Success), Best
Enemy, Individual & Team players (votes) and Nazgul (Win percentage).
Then I've given people points for their position on each list of 104
players, 104 for 1st, 103 for 2nd, etc, to 1 for 104st.
Then I've added them up. And shortened the list to the top 100.This gives a first cut of the best ever MEpbm players......ever.
Its probably not that reliable a list really, the voting lists are very
subjective and a lot of people got the same number of votes, so should
get the same number of points, but I haven't bothered to do that. Also
some of the scores measure similar things. But its still a hell of a thing.Having produced this, the obvious thing to do is make the top 24 play
each other. 1st & 4th & 5th etc play 2nd & 3rd and 6th & 7th, etc, but
practically this is not going to happen, given that some people are in
too many games, some aren't playing any more, some might not get on with
each other any more, etc.
So maybe its best to invite the top 100 to play in a game and take the
first 24. Would this be the ultimate game of MEpbm? Discuss.Cheers
Tony
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The biggest problem with this list is it doesn't have any data from the
pre-Harlequin/Middle Earth Games days. Some seriously good players who
either aren't around much anymore or only play in grudge games are
missing from this list.
Just to correct (no criticism intended either Ben). Note it does in that I got players who responded to the questionnaire and that modified their initial ratings and only since we've had the games with both DGE, Allsorts and Fred's players combined was the PRS implemented. We only took the ratings from what people said though (games won, length of time played) so it's open to inaccuracies that way.
You are correct in that it does only count from that period and not before for purposed of votes etc.
As to Hailing me - well that's fine..
Clint
···
Please let me be clear - I'm not criticizing at all. You clearly laid
out the "parameters" of the data (and thus the inherent limitations of
the output).Beyond that, it's an interesting data set. Thanks for the effort.
All Hail Clint!
b
What I have done here is taken the Player Rating
System scores
It still bogles my mind that ANYONE could use PRS and
"best players" in the same thought.
PRS measures how much you play. The people in the most
games score the highest. Proof is that Clint, who
plays for free, is overall #1.
Steve Muller above Kevin Given.... What a hoot! Any
measure that doesn't put Kevin in the top 5 all time
wasn't worth the time it took to put it together, even
if it only took 10 seconds of effort.
I've been playing 10 years, and Kevin is head and
shoulders above anyone else I've ever played for or
against. Yet he's lists 80-something? I can't
beleive I've wasted this much time responding to this...
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