Turns

Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter we run
around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping to get paid
on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).

Clint

Clint:

Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM environment, I presume...
(may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this quarter
increased from the previous quarter? If so, is this increase in any
way attributable to the influx of Yankees?

If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat obnoxious assumptions...
I am after all an American <grin> - please note my sarcasm... I too
can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:

Chris

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge <allsorts@c...> wrote:

Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter we

run

around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping to

get paid

···

on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).

Clint

I may be a Yank (at the Brits say), but I am in no way
a Yankee!

Eric

···

--- Christopher <montgomery9535@yahoo.com> wrote:

Clint:

Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM
environment, I presume...
(may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this
quarter
increased from the previous quarter? If so, is this
increase in any
way attributable to the influx of Yankees?

If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat
obnoxious assumptions...
I am after all an American <grin> - please note my
sarcasm... I too
can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:

Chris

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge
<allsorts@c...> wrote:
> Just thought you would be interested to know that
this quarter we
run
> around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I
am even hoping to
get paid
> on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can
but hope).
>
> Clint

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That was very british Chris, with a slight touch of american mixed
in! Throw in some australian and you're always at home in this list!
Some swedish is too much to ask for I guess...

So what would you prefer to be called in the US? You often refer to
yourselves as americans, so perhaps we shouldn't call ourselves brits
(or english, or welsh, or scottish...) and swedes and danes, but
europeans. Yanks just doesn't sound right, and yankees is always
dangerous... Right Winn, you yankee? Even northern americans doesn't
do, because of the canadians... US citizens..? I'm confused... :wink:

/Pontus

···

Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM environment, I presume...
(may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this quarter increased
from the previous quarter? If so, is this increase in any way
attributable to the influx of Yankees?

If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat obnoxious assumptions...
I am after all an American <grin> - please note my sarcasm... I too
can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:

Chris

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge <allsorts@c...> wrote:
> Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter we
run
> around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping to
get paid
> on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).
>
> Clint

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Hi,

I've updated my website to include some details on the 2950 Scenario. I'd
appreciate if some generous people on this list would help me set things up?

I need turn 0 reports for some of the nations.

I have
Woodmen
Dunadan Rangers
Silvan Elves
Long Rider
Dragon Lord
Ice King
Quiet Avenger
Fire King
Dwarves

[Thanks to Mr Din for most of the above].

If you have some (or all) of the others, would you consider sending them to
me please at bobbins71@callnetuk.com

(Please don't just send all the attachments though, write to me first with
what you have? I don't really want to be deluged with 100's of attachments
to download - thanks :-).

Also,

I'm always looking for strategy articles, guides, results to encounters
etc. Specifically for the 2950 scenario (because there isn't much written
about it) but also for the other games. I'm also interested in views on
the NKA, WoTR and Last Alliance variants from those involved?

Thanks

Kev

http://www.middleearthpbm.co.uk/

Hi,

I've updated my website to include some details on the 2950 Scenario. I'd
appreciate if some generous people on this list would help me set things

up?

I need turn 0 reports for some of the nations.

I have
Woodmen
Dunadan Rangers
Silvan Elves
Long Rider
Dragon Lord
Ice King
Quiet Avenger
Fire King
Dwarves

[Thanks to Mr Din for most of the above].

If you have some (or all) of the others, would you consider sending them

to

me please at bobbins71@callnetuk.com

(Please don't just send all the attachments though, write to me first with
what you have? I don't really want to be deluged with 100's of

attachments

to download - thanks :-).

RD: Hi Kev,
I have all the 2950 startups (received from Clint - at a price! - to set up
the WotR scenario). Unfortunately I only have paper copies (none on disc)
so I will have to re-type them, so let's see what you get from other guys
first. If there's any you don't get from others, I'll type 'em up and send
them to you. Just let me know what you're missing!

Richard.

···

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin" <kevin@bobbins71.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] 2950 Scenario

Also,

I'm always looking for strategy articles, guides, results to encounters
etc. Specifically for the 2950 scenario (because there isn't much written
about it) but also for the other games. I'm also interested in views on
the NKA, WoTR and Last Alliance variants from those involved?

Thanks

Kev

http://www.middleearthpbm.co.uk/

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Well yes the DGE players did swell the number of turns run, but also we have
a larg e influx of German players, and also of other players who have
rejoined. Basically if you add the player base of the Harlequin group and
the DGE group we still got around another 100-200 players... :slight_smile:

Clint

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----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher <montgomery9535@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:12 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Turns

Clint:

Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM environment, I presume...
(may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this quarter
increased from the previous quarter? If so, is this increase in any
way attributable to the influx of Yankees?

If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat obnoxious assumptions...
I am after all an American <grin> - please note my sarcasm... I too
can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:

Chris

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge <allsorts@c...> wrote:
> Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter we
run
> around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping to
get paid
> on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).
>
> Clint

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--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Christopher" <montgomery9535@y...> wrote:

Clint:

Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM environment, I

presume...

(may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this quarter
increased from the previous quarter? If so, is this increase in

any

way attributable to the influx of Yankees?

I know that many of the Europeans refer to all those born in the
United States as yankees. But you on the other have no excuse being
born in the States. Not all of us who joined are yankees and those
who aren't are offended by being called so. I was born a Southerner
and proud to be one. So please do not lump us all together with that
GOD AWFUL YANKEE phrase if you do know better.

Brian

If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat obnoxious

assumptions...

I am after all an American <grin> - please note my sarcasm... I too
can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:

Chris

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge <allsorts@c...> wrote:
> Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter we
run
> around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping

to

···

get paid
> on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).
>
> Clint

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Pontus Gustavsson" <pontus@g...> wrote:

That was very british Chris, with a slight touch of american mixed
in! Throw in some australian and you're always at home in this

list!

Some swedish is too much to ask for I guess...

So what would you prefer to be called in the US? You often refer to
yourselves as americans, so perhaps we shouldn't call ourselves

brits

(or english, or welsh, or scottish...) and swedes and danes, but
europeans. Yanks just doesn't sound right, and yankees is always
dangerous... Right Winn, you yankee? Even northern americans

doesn't

do, because of the canadians... US citizens..? I'm confused... :wink:

/Pontus

Confused is quite alright in this circumstance. It's because of the
presumptious attittude of the U.S. forefathers. See the best answer
for us is American unless you know that we are born rebs or yanks or
whateveer but that is a little to much to figure out from a name. I
am forgiving to all Europeans that call me a Yankee because they
don't usually know better and don't think of it as much of a personal
slight as I do. But we USA's (that might work usas, just kidding ;))
can not honestly call ourselve Americans we do share the title with
what about dozen other countries between N and S America. So I have
to say its a tough call. I'd say stick with Americans its a popular
enough term and the Canadians have a very good name to be proud of so
until someone is offended by Amercans go with it. But now after this
long thread by me and another guy about the clarification fo Yankee
and Yank let's avoid the first term, Yankee, as much as posibble eh?!

Brian

> Being somewhat of a new comer to the MEPBM environment, I

presume...

> (may I presume?!?) that the number of turns run this quarter

increased

> from the previous quarter? If so, is this increase in any way
> attributable to the influx of Yankees?
>
> If not, please forgive my brash and somewhat obnoxious

assumptions...

> I am after all an American <grin> - please note my sarcasm... I

too

> can appreciate a bit of self-deprecating humor :slight_smile:
>
> Chris
>
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., Clint Oldridge <allsorts@c...> wrote:
> > Just thought you would be interested to know that this quarter

we

> run
> > around 6,000 turns of Middle Earth - cool uh. I am even hoping

to

> get paid
> > on time this month as well... :slight_smile: (Well you can but hope).
> >
> > Clint
>
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Well, that is a hard one. Invoke the ghosts of the 19th century, and down
here in the South, "Yankee" is an insult. But since the South has provided
the majority of America's fighting men in all our causes (and Europe's)
(sorry Clint) ever since -- we do try to move on, we really do.

I think we can all live with Yank if you folks "over there" can -- after
all, who wrote the song anyway? "The Yanks are coming" used to be a
promise, now it's a foreboding, nicht wahr? As languages evolve, "Yank" has
pretty clearly come to refer, especially overseas, to all US Americans,
while Yankee (shortened from the proper Damyankee) is still an epithet
referring to certain northern cousins.

···

----- Original Message -----
From: Pontus Gustavsson <pontus@gustavsson.net>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Turns

That was very british Chris, with a slight touch of american mixed
in! Throw in some australian and you're always at home in this list!
Some swedish is too much to ask for I guess...

So what would you prefer to be called in the US? You often refer to
yourselves as americans, so perhaps we shouldn't call ourselves brits
(or english, or welsh, or scottish...) and swedes and danes, but
europeans. Yanks just doesn't sound right, and yankees is always
dangerous... Right Winn, you yankee? Even northern americans doesn't
do, because of the canadians... US citizens..? I'm confused... :wink:

/Pontus

Pontus Gustavsson wrote:

So what would you prefer to be called in the US? You often refer to
yourselves as americans, so perhaps we shouldn't call ourselves brits
(or english, or welsh, or scottish...) and swedes and danes, but
europeans. Yanks just doesn't sound right, and yankees is always
dangerous... Right Winn, you yankee? Even northern americans doesn't
do, because of the canadians... US citizens..? I'm confused... :wink:

Leftpondians?
USAns?

'American' is usually well understood (even if technically inaccurate).

-ED \1/
(European-mutt-American)

blchezluis@aol.com wrote:

But we USA's (that might work usas, just kidding ;))
can not honestly call ourselve Americans we do share the title with
what about dozen other countries between N and S America.

N & S America include 23 continental and (mumble) island nations. Sorry
to be a stickler but we do have a lot of neighbors.

-ED \1/

However, politically incorrect the origin of people in this country referring
to themselves as "Americans"-- the name has stuck. Let's face it, just like
"Yank", I think most (if not all) people who hear "American" -- know that one
is referring to citizens of the USA. After all, the idea of the "ugly
American"-- doesn't conjure up images of a Canuck- we all know who we're
talking about.

Bob Chronley

"Edward A. Dimmick" wrote:

···

blchezluis@aol.com wrote:
>
> But we USA's (that might work usas, just kidding ;))
> can not honestly call ourselve Americans we do share the title with
> what about dozen other countries between N and S America.
>
N & S America include 23 continental and (mumble) island nations. Sorry
to be a stickler but we do have a lot of neighbors.

-ED \1/

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Confused is quite alright in this circumstance. It's because of

the

presumptious attittude of the U.S. forefathers.

Something our fellow Americans from points south of the Rio Grande
really hate. They call us estadounidenses ("unitedstatesians"), not
americanos. Alas, it doesn't work in English.

  But now after this

long thread by me and another guy about the clarification fo Yankee
and Yank let's avoid the first term, Yankee, as much as posibble

eh?!

Hee, hee! Live with it, Brian. In my home in New York
State, "Yankees" are no more than a baseball team. If I travel to
your home, I am a Yankee and you are not. If we travel together to
Colombia, however, we are both yanquis.

Mark

>
> Confused is quite alright in this circumstance. It's because of
the
> presumptious attittude of the U.S. forefathers.

Something our fellow Americans from points south of the Rio Grande
really hate. They call us estadounidenses ("unitedstatesians"), not
americanos. Alas, it doesn't work in English.

RD: What's wrong with North Americans? That covers people living on the
continent of North America. It includes the USA and Canada and excludes
South & Central America and the islands and hasn't upset anybody (yet!).

By the way, coming from Brits, Yank is not an insult. If we want to insult
you we will start with Colonials and go on from there!

D'you guys still call us Limeys or have you got a new epithet?

Richard.

···

----- Original Message -----
From: <historian683@cs.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:44 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Turns

  But now after this
> long thread by me and another guy about the clarification fo Yankee
> and Yank let's avoid the first term, Yankee, as much as posibble
eh?!

Hee, hee! Live with it, Brian. In my home in New York
State, "Yankees" are no more than a baseball team. If I travel to
your home, I am a Yankee and you are not. If we travel together to
Colombia, however, we are both yanquis.

Mark

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There's a big difference between yanquis and (damn)
yankees.

Eric

···

--- historian683@cs.com wrote:

>
> Confused is quite alright in this circumstance.
It's because of
the
> presumptious attittude of the U.S. forefathers.

Something our fellow Americans from points south of
the Rio Grande
really hate. They call us estadounidenses
("unitedstatesians"), not
americanos. Alas, it doesn't work in English.

  But now after this
> long thread by me and another guy about the
clarification fo Yankee
> and Yank let's avoid the first term, Yankee, as
much as posibble
eh?!

Hee, hee! Live with it, Brian. In my home in New
York
State, "Yankees" are no more than a baseball team.
If I travel to
your home, I am a Yankee and you are not. If we
travel together to
Colombia, however, we are both yanquis.

Mark

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Apparently we are not so "united" in the states if some of us get offended by the
term "Yank". I have always thought of the term "reb" as belonging to those who
fought for he south in the Civil War and "yank" as those who fought for the
north. Growing up in New Jersey, I never heard a southerner referred to as a
"reb" in the present tense. I guess I was ignorant to think that we in the north
were not still referred to as "yanks". I'm also curious to know if that is true
for all many southerners today, regardless of sex, race, color, creed, religion,
and national origin.

bob chronley wrote:

···

However, politically incorrect the origin of people in this country referring
to themselves as "Americans"-- the name has stuck. Let's face it, just like
"Yank", I think most (if not all) people who hear "American" -- know that one
is referring to citizens of the USA. After all, the idea of the "ugly
American"-- doesn't conjure up images of a Canuck- we all know who we're
talking about.

Bob Chronley

"Edward A. Dimmick" wrote:

> blchezluis@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > But we USA's (that might work usas, just kidding ;))
> > can not honestly call ourselve Americans we do share the title with
> > what about dozen other countries between N and S America.
> >
> N & S America include 23 continental and (mumble) island nations. Sorry
> to be a stickler but we do have a lot of neighbors.
>
> -ED \1/
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Richard,

Nothing that's fit to print.

Bob Chronley

Richard John Devereux wrote:

···

----- Original Message -----
From: <historian683@cs.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:44 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Turns

> >
> > Confused is quite alright in this circumstance. It's because of
> the
> > presumptious attittude of the U.S. forefathers.
>
>
> Something our fellow Americans from points south of the Rio Grande
> really hate. They call us estadounidenses ("unitedstatesians"), not
> americanos. Alas, it doesn't work in English.

RD: What's wrong with North Americans? That covers people living on the
continent of North America. It includes the USA and Canada and excludes
South & Central America and the islands and hasn't upset anybody (yet!).

By the way, coming from Brits, Yank is not an insult. If we want to insult
you we will start with Colonials and go on from there!

D'you guys still call us Limeys or have you got a new epithet?

Richard.
>
>
>
> But now after this
> > long thread by me and another guy about the clarification fo Yankee
> > and Yank let's avoid the first term, Yankee, as much as posibble
> eh?!
>
> Hee, hee! Live with it, Brian. In my home in New York
> State, "Yankees" are no more than a baseball team. If I travel to
> your home, I am a Yankee and you are not. If we travel together to
> Colombia, however, we are both yanquis.
>
> Mark
>
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I was just wondering about this thread. Why does everyone feel that a
person must be labeled as to their nationality? I am from South Texas (note
the word from and NOT I am a TEXAN). I can't really grasp the need to label
individuals.

Deni

Leftpondians?
USAns?

I like leftpondians! Now I have two choices! Leftpondians and
unitedstatesians! Thanks guys, you've enlighted me!

/Pontus Gustavsson